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Welcome to the Pivot 2 Thrive Podcast, hosted by Dr. Priya Jaganathan, founder of Pivot 2 Thrive and creator of the POWER PIVOT™ Framework. This podcast is designed for business owners and entrepreneurs who want to take control of their operations, supercharge their marketing efforts, and drive sustainable growth through strategic CRM and business automation. At Pivot 2 Thrive, we believe that small pivots can lead to massive results. Using our proprietary POWER PIVOT™ framework, we help businesses focus on the key pillars that drive growth—online marketing, lead generation, and sales funnel optimization. In each episode, we break down how to leverage all-in-one CRM systems like Go High Level, automate your business processes, and implement targeted marketing strategies that generate leads and fuel business success. Through her own journey as an academician turned business coach—managing a thriving business, two podcasts, YouTube channels, and a family—Priya shares real-world insights on how you can grow your business, streamline operations, and increase revenue with the right marketing and CRM strategies. Each episode covers: Online Marketing Strategies: Proven tactics for generating leads and converting them into paying clients. CRM & Business Automation: How to replace disconnected tools with seamless automation for better results. POWER PIVOT™ Framework: Learn how our trademark framework helps businesses focus on the key areas that drive growth and success. Go High Level: How to integrate and optimize this all-in-one CRM for business success. If you’re ready to scale your business with actionable strategies that combine CRM, automation, and marketing, tune in to the Pivot 2 Thrive Podcast and let’s get started!
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Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Episode 68: Copywriting in The AI Era Why Human Creativity Still Wins with Scott Bywater
Welcome back to another exciting episode! Today, we have the privilege of speaking with Scott Bywater, a seasoned copywriter with over 20 years of experience working with clients across the globe. In this episode, Scott shares invaluable insights and practical tips for both aspiring and established copywriters. He discusses the importance of positioning, resilience, and consistency in the world of copywriting, while also revealing a powerful four-letter word that can spark curiosity and enhance your email open rates. Whether you're a freelancer or just starting your journey in copywriting, this episode is packed with wisdom that you won't want to miss. So, let's dive in and learn from Scott's wealth of experience!
00:00 - 01:17 - Introduction
02:02 - 02:39 - Scott's Background
06:21 - 07:32 - The Importance of Positioning
13:01 - 14:04 - Writing for Clarity
19:45 - 20:48 - Key Elements of Successful Copy
23:22 - 24:49 - Mastering Sales and Communication
29:09 - 30:28 - Email Newsletters and Open Rates
35:11 - 36:24 - Building Trust Through Consistency
36:38 - 39:30 - The Power of Value and Open Loops
42:07 - 43:02 - Storytelling in Marketing
47:09 - 49:07 - The Four-Letter Word for Curiosity
50:22 - 50:23 - Conclusion
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
- The Importance of Positioning: Understanding your market and positioning your offer effectively is crucial. The right message at the right time can make all the difference in capturing attention and driving sales.
- Crafting Compelling Headlines: Your headline is your first impression. Make it useful, unique, urgent, and ultra-specific to spark curiosity and encourage opens. Remember, a great headline can significantly impact your email open rates!
- Consistency is Key: Building trust takes time. Regularly engaging with your audience through valuable content—whether it’s emails, social media posts, or newsletters—will help you establish credibility and foster long-term relationships.
In a world where AI is becoming more prevalent, remember that the human touch—empathy, storytelling, and genuine connection—will always set you apart.
𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 Guest: Steve Brossman
Scott Bywater is a seasoned copywriter with over 20 years of experience, having worked with prominent direct marketers in Australia and around the globe. His journey began unexpectedly with a hair salon at the age of 24, but his passion for writing and personal development, which started at 17, led him to the world of copywriting. Scott has crafted compelling copy for various industries, including a memorable stint writing in Donald Trump's voice.
Throughout his career, he has mastered the art of building trust through words, emphasizing the importance of empathy and understanding customer needs. Scott believes that effective copywriting is not just about writing; it's about strategizing and building a business. He advocates for the use of AI as a tool for enhancing creativity rather than replacing the human touch in writing.
Scott's insights into curiosity-driven headlines and the power of storytelling have made him a sought-after expert in the field. He continues to inspire others with his dedication to consistency and resilience, proving that success in copywriting is a journey of continuous learning and adaptation.
Website & Social Media Links:
- Websites: https://www.copywritingthatsells.com.au/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100068908269914
- LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottbywatercopywriter/
𝐀𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐇𝐨𝐬𝐭: 𝐃𝐫. 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐲𝐚 𝐉𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧
Dr. Priya is the founder of 𝐏𝐢𝐯𝐨𝐭 𝟐 𝐓𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐯𝐞 and 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐎𝐖𝐄𝐑 𝐏𝐈𝐕𝐎𝐓™ 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐞𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐤. Her mission is to empower entrepreneurs with strategies that combine 𝐂𝐑𝐌, 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 to achieve sustainable business growth.
𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐃𝐫. 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐲𝐚 𝐉𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧:
- Email: team@pivot2thrive.com.au
- Websites: https://pivot2thrive.com.au/links
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/priyajaganathan/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drpriyajaganathan/
- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pivottothrive/
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- 𝐓𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐀𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐐𝐮𝐢𝐳: Quickly evaluate your business needs and discover areas for growth.
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Tune in now for inspiration and practical wisdom to carry into 2025.
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